Hi, everybody. A lot of you were here this afternoon. I'm sorry you had to come back. You didn't go obligated, did you? Well, you're not saying no. Okay, all right, good. I would have come whether you came or not, okay? So you really have to come. But I'm glad you did. And it's bound to be true that this morning by the time we got to where we were having interaction, you were so tired of being here that you just wanted out. So I want to know why I was anxious. But I know. I've been around. I thought we'd take a few minutes and let you maybe raise some issues that maybe have come up in your thinking or in your conversation since that time, this afternoon, or something comes to mind for just a minute. And we'll have more chances later. But why don't we start off giving you a chance to say, what did you mean when you said or what about or how in the world does this get in with that kind of stuff? Yes, sir. What's the history of recognizing the Holy Spirit's role in the early history of the church?
I'm not a church historian, but I can tell you this much about it. That's the main thing that least the theologians of the church were interested in was defending and establishing the divinity of the Holy Spirit, because that, you know, the Trinity in other words. And just a long time for that to get really clearly formulated in the church. And, you know, we don't know exactly when the miraculous things of the church began to wane. You read the book of Acts and you get the impression there was not true, but you get the impression they had a miracle every five minutes or so. And we don't know exactly. It's hard to say when that stopped being the case. It's not like, well, all of a sudden, when they boom, no more miracles. But, you know, you can sort of tell that it's not quite as intense as it once was. But I don't know, apart from that, what they talked much about Holy Spirit. They don't talk about Holy Spirit the way we did this morning. But we did this morning. It's a little bit unusual because people have to concern the things like this will blow your way. The eternal possession of the Holy Spirit. The big debates in the early church over from whom did the Holy Spirit proceed? Was it from the Father? Or was it from the Son that he proceeded? And if he proceeded, does that mean he had a beginning? Was there a time that he wasn't proceeding? And so they came up with his idea of the internal possession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son. And so, you know, it's that kind of weird stuff that they talked about in the Holy Spirit. We'll see an influence of the Greek philosophy on the church. How's that? All right, good. Now that's just on your mind. Gotta be thinking about something. Who won the ball game today? The other team? Sorry. Tiger won again? Of course. I know sometimes it takes a minute for you to get your head together and go, think about something. Even bother you that I said this morning. And if you go, that can't be true. Okay.
No, you're not interested in the Eden thing, are you? Yeah, what do you want to say?
Right. I don't know what it means to say that God put angels in front of it to keep people out. You know, I can hardly hear those words without thinking of it in terms of Star Trek. Yeah, there's some kind of portal that's there that's a metaphysical portal. It's got these metaphysical creatures that are sort of hanging out and as it was acting with forced beings or something, you know, photon beings or something, if you cross the line. I mean, I don't know what I have to say, but that's just the way I have to think of it. But I think that that's not really very far from the kinds of pictures you get in things like these Jill and Daniel and Revelation and things like that. But I would say that probably when the Bible says that God closed the door as it were or put the angels there to keep people out, that it had to do with the full experience of the paradise. You got to remember that if you've ever been to the Middle East, you know that it's not a very nice place to live. I know you probably haven't realized that if you haven't been there, people often go to the Holy Land and they're very disappointed in what it looks like. This is terrible place. Who would ever want to live here? Who would ever want to die over this place? That's a sure. But, you know, the fact is that it's always, you haven't always been quite as bad as it is now. But, you know, this is the Dead Sea, that's the Sea of Galilee, that's the Tiger Sea, Brady's River, and this is Mediterranean Sea, and there's the Nile, okay? That's an app there. We talk in terms of the fertile crescent, right? And normally what we think, what I know in some textbooks, they just talk about the Tiger Sea, Brady's Valley as being the fertile crescent, but many other textbooks you'll find that they extend it down like this, down the coast, like that. So, this becomes the fertile crescent and depends on how you scale your map and look more like a crescent and or not, okay? And the reality is, in fact, this is the fertile area of this part of the world. You know, if you basically, if you go on the east side of the Jordan River, you've got desert. You can stand on one side and it's got a little bit of grass, not a whole lot because of how far down South you are, and you can look over the other side and there's nothing over there. I mean, it's just barren who it's walking on the moon looking kind of place. And that's the way it is in all of this area because the water is so sparse and the water table is so very low, and there's just no water out there. And so, when ancient Israelites would think about Eden and as a paradise, it would be very natural for them to think of it as being in some place in this fertile area here. And of course, you may not be surprised to know that the Babylonians, Babylon over here, the Babylonians had a place that they called A.D. and it was depending on what sort you're reading, in the lower Tagusia Studies Valley, or in the upper Tagusia Studies Valley, and in Babylonian the word A.D. means a valley or a flatland. And strangely enough, when Moses writes Genesis, he uses the word Eden and Hebrew. And this word Eden sounds like that word but it doesn't mean the same thing. And Babylonian means a flatland and Hebrew means a pleasant place. So he's using a terminology that that people in the ancient world understood and they knew but he's also using it in a sort of no it's not, it's over here, kind of way. In other words, he's saying to the people of Israel, whom he's bringing out of Egypt, that Eden was not over here, but Eden is here, where I'm taking you. And so that's the basics of the idea. I don't know. So, but you know, when you read of the promises that are made about what it's going to be like in the land, or they will obey God, then it sounds like Eden, doesn't it? They'll be fruitful, they won't even have to water the plants, the rains will come, everything will grow, they'll just be wonderful paradise, landslide with milk and honey. You know, milk and honey, you know what that means? It means that the cows will be so fertile that they'll have so much milk you won't be able to milk them, but the milk will drip from the cows. And it'll just be flowing down the mountains with things with the beans. The beans will be so fertile you won't be able to collect all the honey, it'll just be dripping everywhere. It'll be so much effort. And it'll be running with wine. Again, the same thing, but the vineyards are so thoughtful that the grapes actually start dripping their juice and it becomes the rivers of Israel. Oh, that's paradise languages. And so, Mimosas describes what the land can be for Israel, he's saying it can be like it wasn't Eden. Right, when they got there and messed up, it shows over. Good question. That's a little good question. I guess in some way. What's getting better? How's it going to get better? What's he going to do now? And those sorts of things. I think I know I mentioned it this morning, that I think the missing link, and it was also about the missing link and evolution being the piece of biological evidence for between one species to another. I believe there's a missing link in the Bible also. And the missing link for most Christians is that they don't know the prophets. Of course, you can imagine I teased the prophets, right? That's why I think this is the most important part of Bible. Now, I do believe it's not the most important part. That's the book of Chronicles. But the part of the Bible that is missing in most people's minds, and most people's thinking about the Bible is the prophets. And I mean, most Christians know Genesis fairly well and Exodus. You get up to Judges. You kind of know that to Samuel. Yeah, okay. But when you ask somebody what's unusual about, they go, what are you talking about? Or if you talk about the fall of Samaria, they go, okay, yeah, whatever. Or you talk about the restoration period and the reconstruction of the temple and 515 BC. They're all going to be out of your mind. By the time you get out of the Samuel, the life of David and the life of Solomon, you're now thinking, well, I get me to get to the New Testament real fast here because I don't know anything else about the Bible after I get past David. That's all of this for teens and their wars and battles and all that kind of stuff. You know, that we don't like all that much anyway. And so what most people have is the beginning of the Bible and the end of the Bible. And it's that piece in the middle that makes sense out of how the beginning and the end connect to each other. And we could call it the prophets. We could call it the period of the monarchy, the time of after David. And I think that's so important when it comes to understanding Holy Spirit because I think I'm convinced that the main reason why we don't have much sense of the wonder of what the Holy Spirit is doing in our lives is because we don't have much sense of what the prophets saw to be the role of the Holy Spirit in their future. And to get at that, I think what we need to do is to sort of take a look at a number of places in the Bible and get the big picture of how Israel expected the future to be. So that's what we're going to do. And I think it's going to make some sense out of a lot of the things that we've talked about. We saw this morning and then some more that we're going to see this evening, some specific things. Let me give you just a sketch. Sketch of the big picture here. Basically, you remember that Israel goes to the land but living in the land for Israel was something that was very conditional so that if they sin, God said if their sins grew horribly and if they became really, really rotten, that he would exile them from the land. But God also said that that exile would not last forever. That one day there would be a restoration. So really, the basic picture is very simple. You're going to have a period where sin is going to become so bad that there's going to be a judgment against the people of God and then you're going to have a period of restoration. Well, they'll come back to the land. And I want us to see that in the book of Deuteronomy. Let's just start off and get the picture here. Deuteronomy knows, come from Moses, Deuteronomy chapter 30, that this is kind of the theological background of what the prophets believe and what the New Testament then believes about the coming of the Holy Spirit. Found in Deuteronomy chapter 30, we'll start with verse 1. And what I want you to see is this basic picture of Deuteronomy 30, verse 1 and following, the basic picture of an exile of judgment and then a restoration. That was the main vision of the Old Testament. Now Moses is talking to the Israelites before they enter the land. He's talking to them about what's going to happen once they enter the land. And he says these words, when all these blessings and curses I have said before you come upon you and you take them to heart wherever the Lord your God disperses you among the nations. So you see he's saying once God has exiled you, once you have been dispersed, okay, when that happens, listen to what he says will happen. And when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, for in other words, when they repent, okay, that's what's going to make the difference between exile and restoration as repentance. When they do that, what's going to happen? Verse 3, then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the Lord your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belongs to your fathers and you will take possession of it. He will make you and this is what's important right here. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul and live. The Lord your God will not, well hardly the Lord your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. You will again obey the Lord and follow all his commands I am giving you today. Then the Lord your God will make you most prosperous in all the works of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your fields of the Lord. Again, we will delight in you and make you prosperous just as you delight in your forefathers. If you obey the Lord your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in the book of the law and turn to the Lord your God of all your heart and of all your souls. Okay, so what is happening here? Basically Moses fetched for them, look I'm taking you to a land and there's a land flowing with milk and honey and it's a great blessing that you're going to receive to go into this land, a great blessing from God but if you rebel and become flagrant in your regardless of God you're going to throw you out but that's not the end of the story. If you repent no matter where God ascends you no matter how far away he ascends you no matter how badly things have turned out. If you repent he will bring you back to the land and when he brings you back to the land he will bless you even greater than he did in the past. So the vision is not just that well the exile will be over. The vision is that it's going to be this great climax of history, this great end of the show, the great finale where the blessings of God are going to be absolutely astounding even by comparison with the way they were when Israel first entered into the land. So once they go out of exile the exile by the way is the worst judgment that comes upon the people of God and the Old Testament. It's the worst thing that can happen to them but when they go through the worst punishment of the Old Testament the greatest blessing of the Old Testament is the return of the restoration after the accident. That is the basic vision that undergirds all of the hopes of all the prophets in the Old Testament and the reason that it undergirds their whole thinking, their whole beliefs, their whole system of everything they trust and yield themselves to and give themselves to the ministry and say to other people it's because this is their only hope. You see by the time most prophets step onto the scene in the Bible the ones that we have like Isaiah and Jeremiah and Ames and those kinds of people. The people of God are already at least here that is exile is already beginning. The threat of exile is right around the corner because they've already turned so blatantly against the Lord but that does not mean that they give up and over as most of the prophets, especially the early ones, emphasize a lot the fact that exile is coming, exile is coming, judgment, judgment, judgment. Everybody say oh God will never do that, God will never curse us, can you wear the people of God after all? We're bad but we're not as bad as the Babylonians. We're bad but we're not as bad as the Asperians. Man sure that that's exactly what's going to happen when the Lord cursed us with the PCA. We're all going to say well this couldn't be God doing this and then he asked we're all we're bad but we're not as bad as those Methodists, that's for sure. So God wouldn't do anything to us. We're not as bad as those Buddhist over there in downtown. So he wouldn't do anything to us. If the fact is that God holds a higher standard for his people than he does for others you watch that yeah repentance good job good God wonderful excellent I'm glad you asked that question because that's of course the fifty dollar issue here how you can't have the restoration of the nation without the repentance to come with it exactly right so what you see over there so what you see over there is not this that's right but that's a whole another conference okay but but let's make let's just make this basic point and that is that what the New Testament does is it announces that this restoration has come that's what it announces you know we sing it every single Christmas you know that song will come will come and I you well and ransom can't do this I have no that one well you know the captive Israel what's that about that's exile and when you are singing out for a manual to come to rescue captive Israel is the birth of Jesus that's what that's what that's what Jesus did is he came to bring it into the exile and the reason for this is because although Jeremiah predicted that this exile would be 70 years long 70 years long that's what he predicted after 70 years was up read Daniel chapter nine that people still had not rescinded Daniel said please bring them back anyway and God said no way instead God said what we're going to do is we're going to link them this time of exile seven times the 400 500 years 495 years and interestingly enough he did that in 539 D.C so the exile is extended for 500 years and of course those 500 years brings us up to the coming of Jesus okay and so yeah good job so good you guys are so far ahead I mean I can't stand it that's so good ready go that's so great I can't stand it yeah there's a little hiccup here and that's that 539 thing that we talked about in fact I'll just well it may as well now as you brought it up I wasn't going to skip that because it's just complicated things but let's not let's do our hand complicated we've got all of night right all right good all right there's this at when in 539 two things happen in 539 very interesting one is the vision of Daniel chapter nine that I just mentioned the seven times 70 times seven okay but there's another thing that happens in 539 538 in the brain next year it is that a bunch of people return to the land you say and in fact he's really won all this we'll do it anyway second second Chronicle 36 the last verse is a second Chronicle 36 says that the return of these people in 538 is fulfillment of Jeremiah's prophecy that the exile would last for 70 years Daniel is learning it's going to be extended seven times 70 but at the same time some people are going back thinking this is the end of it and what happens is is that Haggai and Zechariah these two guys you're talking about but what they do is they start preaching is what they do basically they start preaching around 520 BC a few years after they've come back and what they do is they say God is offering you the kingdom he's offering it to you right now if you will repent you people will come back if you will repent and rebuild the temple and make it a holy place and do the right thing then I will pour out so many blessings on you won't believe it and the kingdom of God will begin and to begin to grow and expand to the whole world that's exactly what Haggai and Zechariah said so much so in fact I'll show you that and Haggai chapter two let's just look at it may as well can't dance that's for sure Haggai chapter two you know where that is Haggai Zechariah I am Malachai I know there's last three Haggai chapter two you remember the leader of the people when they came back in 539 you remember his name especially the zine the rubble that's right okay so he's he's a son of David so he's the rightful heir of David's throne he's but he never becomes keen he's just a governor at this time but I want to hear what Haggai says to him in the last words of his book Haggai chapter two verse 20 the word of the Lord came to Haggai a second time on a 24th day of the month tells a rubble governor of Judah that I will shake the heavens in the earth I will overturn royal thrones instead of the power of foreign kingdoms I will overthrow chariots and their drivers the horses and their riders will fall each by the sort of his brother on that day declares the Lord Almighty I will take you my servants the rubble son of Shia Tiel declares the Lord and I will make you like my figment ring for I have chosen you to declare to the Lord Almighty so what has got offered to the rubble a great kingdom that doesn't mean that the kingdom would have come in its fullness without Jesus having come but it means it could have gotten started it's very suitable to begin to wind it up and build up towards the day of Jesus coming of course we know what happened to the rubble no actually we don't know what happened to the rubble he just disappeared he was probably kidnapped by some person guys because it was just like this one by taking off some earn thrown in gifts somewhere and died nobody even knows what happened so we know why it happened to him was because the people were unfaithful they did not turn back to the Lord and so the restoration of 539 fizzles out so the answer question yes they came back and yes there was high great potential but boom fizzles and as a result of this fizzling malachives the last book in the Old Testament says we've got a long time to wait a long time to wait Daniel learned the same thing 500 years there will have to be a great intervention by God and he will purify even the sons of Levi you know that's in handle and he's out to respond that one that's the sons of Levi okay that's the best all about that's from Malatite saying that when when the son of David finally comes he's even going to have to purify the sons of Levi they're so rotten yep yep make sure the temple yep they sure were so they can't but they come back and it's just too hard work everybody wants to be saved but nobody wants to hang in there and they say you know in our church the full of people because it's so easy to do Christians you have a real standing out of the crowd I think every 10th person that came to church got shot by the police on the street go
right exactly this is the passage at Paul quotes and from his canister this is the gospel the good news gospel now there's a lot of stuff that's rolling here all at once but I'll do it and say the word good news comes from the Old Testament okay you've heard that in handles Messiah too oh now that's got this good tidy to Zion good tidy stuff get me off into the high mountain right what's he talking about this that's a property by Isaiah about somebody announcing that the restoration has come that's the good news the restoration from the exile and see what the Christians believed was Jesus was the son of David Jesus was the king Jesus brought the restoration of Israel from exile so what blew everybody's mind was he didn't bring it back the way everyone expected that's what was so bizarre and it's the problem that we have to face too we don't we don't feel the tension of it so much because we don't know the expectations that the prophets lay down to see because the people who were in Jesus said you know we always say well the Jews believe there's going to be a physical kingdom they were so well wouldn't that a stupid thing to say you know Dylan said the thing to thank you so what the prophet said was going to happen you heard it's irreverable you heard he said there's a rebel I'm going to shake the heavens in the earth I'm going to destroy the kings I've killed each other right before your time and I'll make you my history that was the hope that Israel's going to rise up and conquer the world and I wanted a zealots which charge after the Roman soldiers now they just figured God was going to take care of them but here comes Jesus claims to be Messiah and he disappears on them he died but as followers keep thinking that the kingdom really has come that the restoration really has come now all of this then you see it's very important for you to start getting a hold of because the restoration from exile is not a restoration to a spiritual existence it's a restoration to realize and I told you about this conference in Brooklyn that I did a couple of years ago and this kind of blew their minds in the sense that I was a goi saying this to them but it um but it's also to blow you will pardon blow some of your minds too and that is that we don't believe that salvation is spiritual
and press the hearings have really believed this to the senses because we don't know it anymore we believe that salvation is not complete until it is physical okay you know that's true because we believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus okay so you're not fully saved until you get a new body you know that old gospel song I'll have a new body praise Lord I'll have a new life someone say new life but really just new life okay I'll have a new body yeah but it's not just getting a new body it's getting a new world the final state is not a sort of ghost existence ghost-like existence it is physical salvation so the physicality or salvation is something we have to proclaim in the light of what the prophet said the unfortunate thing is is that the church has been deeply influenced by a sort of spiritualism that came from Greek philosophy that said the physical is bad the physical is the problem salvation has to be delivered from this physical world and unfortunately that's kind of crept into our thinking to the point that we actually think that going to heaven is the ultimate goal is not heaven's just the bus stop well all right you waiting for the bus to come where's the bus going the new heavens and the new earth the revelation chapter six makes that very clear they're right now in heaven the martyrs are lamenting their protestant they have these protest signs at the throne of God they're saying how long how long how long how long until justice comes on the earth how long till we get our inheritance how long till we get what belongs to us where the martyrs how long so even in heaven right now they're having these kind of lament fast imagine what the thing the reason for that is because salvation is not complete until physical has happened remember what holy ghost was doing in the beginning what was he doing in the beginning bringing order to the physical world and salvation does not come to completion until the physical world is ordered by God and God says now at last it's the ultimate now at last is finally reached the final perfect state and he and then we enjoy it together that really is the vision of the prophets and the vision we ought to have unfortunately don't that's the problem with us here so what we're going to do is knowing that that's the case knowing that that's where the prophets look at this business of the restoration and salvation and all that kind of thing but we have to start asking us what was the place of the Holy Spirit in this expectation is that makes sense if their vision of the future was great things are going to happen for God's people ultimate so much so much greater you cannot even imagine how grand it's going to be Isaiah taught it the new heavens and the new earth which is where John gets it in the book of Revelation the new creation which is where Paul gets it the second Corinthians if it's going to be that fantastic in the future after the exiles over then what happened why hasn't it happened no and how does Holy Spirit fit into all of this where is he in the prophets expectation and in the reality that's come once the kingdom of God began you with me on what the issue is here see the early Jewish community understood this problem we Gentiles we don't understand this problem because we don't have any expectations that are physical and all those kinds of things and when we get those expectations it becomes very much this worldly so that you know you think that by electing the right president everything's going to be okay
it won't be by the way you know that don't you sit around enough to know that's the case it doesn't matter who gets elected in a few months and won't make that much difference the kingdom God is not coming by that means okay but the reality is is that that's what happens to Christians they start becoming invested in this world rather than in the next world when they start thinking about the physical political power reality of salvation yeah I think that's true I think it got perverted that way that's right vengeance revenge our one of our biggest problems right here in this country is most of us have never really experienced oppression at all which is the reason why most of us don't even wish very much for Jesus to come back have you noticed how seldom you pray for Jesus to return
I've never asked him to come back I don't think basically my prayer is let me see my granddaughter grow up to love you I'm asking him not to come back soon why is that because I've got it so good out here I mean does all of a sudden an air condition building here I mean how bad would it be the air conditioning does off we think God hates us or something I mean that's the worst that happens to us and that's not really sickness happens to us broken relationships happen to us but most of us in this room have not even suffered a war I had not suffered a war in my backyard most of us hadn't even been the war some of us in this room had been so you know the horrors that can exist in life but it was a temporary experience not something that went on for 400 years well these people were into this for 400 years this country has not even existed 400 years 400 years 490 years 500 years by the time Jesus think they had been oppressed by first the Babylonians and then he came next you know well these Syrians and Babylonians stuff same time okay then the Persians then the Greeks Alexander the Great okay and then the Romans and all that time they had a few uprisings now and then the Maccabin revolt and things like that and at the end of the mall they all get slaughtered and you know everybody dies and that's just the way it goes you try and you stay out try and you feel so they're all hoping hoping hoping the Messiah will come and bring them salvation the salvation equals victory and that's what it means that's what it means for us to but we just don't believe that and don't think about it much because we're not suffering much if we suffer for weeks or two we would start being praying for the victory to come okay yeah we did go he's taking us away from me she just said a wonderful thing you'll never know you know well I think two things happen to us one thing the question is don't you think we sort of inoculate ourselves for the ills of the world and I think the answer that is absolutely yes I mean this is one of the things I've got this mission some and I do I guess I'll be able to do that ever here if we talk about this right now but one of the things I say if we go is yes that's absolutely true that what we tend to do is one of two things either we reduce the reality of evil this you sort of feel like life isn't as evil as it really is or we reduce the hope of what salvation is one of those two things that tends to be the tendency we have the great example of this is Elton John and the Lion King the circle of life you know that theme song the circle of love you know that one you know that's all about how you know dogs eat cats and lions eat dogs and people eat lions and then they'll be people okay this is the circle of life okay and the the celebrating the circle of life is very eastern in this sense okay far east and not Middle Eastern and also very evolutionary in that sense too there's a nice interface in there but the notion is that this is a wondrous thing it's not in the Bible terms this is not a wondrous thing this is an evil thing it's a horrible thing there's going to cat play with a squirrel kill a rat everything cat play with animals as they torture them to death it's not a beautiful thing it's a horrible thing no you watch the animal planet you know it had the gazelle being chased by the leffers and all this other stuff these out they go isn't this beautiful they make out it's not beautiful that's a ugly thing or a similar life ripping a throat out of that animal about as ugly as it can be then put humans into the picture you've really got ugly now and the reality is is that life isn't pleasant life is horrible the difficulty for us is that we are insulated something you know it's just if we I think it's unimaginable to most of us just how horrible life is for most Christians in this world most Christians in this world I mean the fact that we have brothers and sisters right now who can't even do things simple things like get antibiotics for their children who are going to die of some simple infection and that we have brothers and sisters our family to Kennedy get that and have to watch their child suffer and die in agony just die in agony because they don't have simple medicines that we just take the band as we get every other week okay just simple things like that much less the war and the torturing and the blistering and the breaking that goes on of our people our family so you know yeah we insulate ourselves from that and so salvation doesn't have to be a very big thing salvation didn't just reduce salsa so you're getting saved just means getting a little bit happier I mean basically I'm got a happy life yeah I may have some psychological things that don't you know need to deal with but I you know don't like my husband all that much but my children are bothering me but it's just not that big a deal so what happens is you know what we tend to do with salvation is reduce it down to getting a little more content well you can get that with a therapist you don't have to you don't have to have be saved to get that but when your vision of salvation is bigger and your sense of evil is bigger then the sense of hey what's going on here becomes bigger because you claim to be saved but you're not delivered from the evil and you haven't gained the salvation yet you you sense more that you don't have what you're supposed to be getting as a child of the king I want to bend his hands I forget the dance the name fingers made I like him I'm exactly met on the airplane one time this was his most famous singer he sings this song and he really just improved growing um I know the white guy um but the song is you're I'm a child of the king and what he does he starts I'm a child of the king I'm a child of the king and everybody starts doing it together I'm a child of the king so on and so on and basically you know they're getting really excited but the only thing they're really excited about is the fact that somebody's back sore back is going to get better that night I don't think there's much sense in most of those groups in the United States now when they go to African places better it's more sensitive but a sense of I don't have what I'm supposed to have I haven't gotten my salvation yet I'm a child of the king and nothing's the way it's supposed to be my children aren't following the Lord my body's falling apart I'm achy the world isn't agony people are being killed animals are eating animals is a horrible place we live in I still haven't got my salvation and I'm supposed to be following the one who is resurrected from their dead how long how long how long that's the problem that the New Testament deals with just that very problem and that is why the book of Revelation says basically this message there is much more suffering to be done you know why has Jesus taken so long well he hadn't taken that long the book of Revelation saying he's going to take much longer because there's much more suffering to be done now you see the wonder of Holy Spirit it's just a wonder now can only be stabbled and only be grasped as we hold on to this very serious sort of departure as it were from this picture right here and I guess we're going to come to the Holy Spirit well in this after we take a break okay sorry let's take a break bathroom break for something I'm a child