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Do Angels Really Sing?

February 21, 2008
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Do angels really think the answer to that and other questions on this edition of key life? Hi, I'm Mike Kellogg and you are now listening to key life where you can find honest answers to honest questions about God's word

Now here is Steve Thanks Mike This is the day we answer questions and feed. I appreciate you're coming in good to be here How you doing? I'm doing good every Friday my pastor Pete L. Woodson comes in and he straightens up the things that I've messed up on Wednesday When we answer questions By the way, we love to get your questions. You got to write them down though send them to key life post office bucks 5,000 makeland florida 3794 or key life Canada post office bucks three two one five all Cambridge Ontario in three H five in three or you could Email us, but give us your regular mailing address if you want a response Steve at key life dot org and you'll always get a response from the your staff member on the broadcaster in the magazine and You can use the one 800 number for everything make a contribution become a part of key life tapes order the magazine etc etc except questions you got to write those down and And as I said, we'd love to get your questions before we turn to the questions as far usual for the course Pastor would you lead us in prayer? Let's do it. Our father. We bow now I thankful that we are your children and that we can come into your presence Lord grateful that you've called us to be your sons and daughters that you open our eyes and you showed us our need for you and So father, we worship you today and Ask that you would continue to lead us and guide us and everything we do as we drive as we're involved with people and our family and friends and that work Lord, we ask for your leadership in guidance Give us wisdom and give us hope and give us joy And father, we look forward to Sunday as we gather together as your people and so we do lift up those who will be in a very visible and public place leading your people and teaching from your word we pray for the priests and pastors and teachers and pastors wise pastors families as they are standing together for the gospel and we we just do pray that you would cause them to speak strong and firm and clear and in a gracious way give your truth and uphold them and may we gather together in your presence to do that father We now ask for your wisdom Thank you for the truth of your word and may we in some way Encourage your people be the one that over rules now as we talk about these things as we pray in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. All right, so the questions Do you want to do that? Angels really think hey, they've got that's from by wait a second. Let's see where that's from That's an email no say so They've got to right well, you know, it says we just got passed by time this gets out. It will be past Christmas That's right so it says that the angels were praising God and saying You're not going to tell me they don't say glory to God in the highest. Well, well at the Christmas free presentation that we went to a Christmas They saying yeah, and everybody knows You know, I don't know whether they're singing and how was their pricing could have been singing I really probably need to get a Concordance out that double check this 100% because we didn't do that. We're doing this off the top of our head But the traditional passage where angels saying yeah, they said But it is kind of poetic. Yeah, so it would the so are you know, I With check we'll get back to you Now can you imagine angels not singing no no and the harp are you gonna tell me they don't have a heart? That's right, and they don't sit on clouds need deep in a ethereal No, I don't you know, honestly all kidding aside The traditional passage where angels sing says that they said rather than sing because we looked it up But we didn't go into details on not absolutely sure So maybe we'll check and we'll correct it on a future broadcast if we're wrong We might say though on this is really not gonna affect your salvation. It's more of one of those many points of interest that we Christians have But it wouldn't I don't think it could be used in any way to say that singing in the church would be wrong or

If they didn't sing it couldn't be used against singing in the church I agree. There was a second part of this. What does the Bible teach about angels? Wow, what do you think you're closer than I am to that? Well, I'm really not but one of my editors wrote a book on angels And I was with him when he was doing his research and it was just a delightful Time to listen to him talk about angels, but but the thing about angels first is that an angel is a sent one And so and so like an apostle. I mean it is a right here. He or she or it is a representative of God And so angels are always acting at his behest Mm-hmm I think the book of Hebrews has a number of things in the beginning of that book about angels The writers trying to compare angels with Jesus right and showing Jesus a periodicity But in that text a lot of side things you can draw like Guardian angels like angels that operate on our behalf Absolutely. They're going out to render service toward those who are called of God That's an amazing path. That's the guardian angel path. That's true I do not think that you ought to build your entire theological position on angelology on touch by an angel There is a there is a thing about entertaining angels unawares Right. That's right in Hebrews and and so you know it You can grant possibility That there have been times and you hear stories all the time of People who have the things had it had happened in their lives interventions that have been supernatural That they consider angelic and they might be and they might be and there's there's a great Not a mystery to that that that's that that's really good. Yeah, and we evangelicals need to be more open to that The cautionary side of that is that you don't start praying to angels You know, you know, you're you pray to the you pray to the Father and it's the Holy Spirit who is our Comforter who it comes alongside and I think you'd probably have to be a little Careful not to attribute to angels the work of the spirit. Oh, and my friend was saying when he was working on this book that That he said you you won't believe the stuff that people are putting out looks on angels And so we have to be careful that we don't go beyond where scripture is quite clear and certainly angels are Created beings. They are not to be worshipped But but God has taught us a lot about angels and and it's nice to think about it as long as we stay within those parameters So if I I get one of those angel pins can I wear it? Yeah, and and and you could probably get one That had music any hit a button. That's right. It's ain't good. Yeah Okay, we're not being flipping about the questions a very serious question and one I have never answered before I'm not angel saying he says an interesting question What is the Greek word for belief that is used in John 316 mean? Well, you know, we did lick this one up like you said we normally don't do a lot of Preparation, but we did lick this one. It's pistu. It's a you know, it is the word It is very commonly used for to believe or to trust or to have faith But it because it's in the present tense in that passage Jesus talks about that sort of that ongoing he who believes and keeps on believing In him will not perish but I've ever lasting like sometimes I think we as Christians Think that belief is just intellectual Ascent to propositions. So if you get the propositions right and you believe those propositions You you can you think everything's okay, and that's not true Because the belief has to do with Jesus and it has to do with a person right now on on whom you lean and in whom you trust and so Belief goes beyond saying like I believe two plus two equals four Because two plus two equals four is not gonna hug me or forgive me or be my companion or be my elder brother or be my friend And so there's a sense in which and as you mentioned in the Greek tense But also even in its meaning it goes beyond just Intellectual have sent right right. Yeah, it is. It's that relational ongoing trust For salvation, but in the father based on the work of the son. Oh, yeah, you said well. Okay What is the Bible teach about forgiveness toward others this from Ohio and by the way the belief question came from Florida This is from Ohio. What does the Bible teach about forgiveness to others says y'all to yes All right, this is from Canada I think maybe they want more than what about what about if a person doesn't want you to forgive him Should you forgive him anyway? Yeah, yeah, I mean I think so I'm of the position that y'all to do that and and it's partly For your relationship with the father and partly for yourself and partly for them if you ever see him again You know people love to take the scripture and twist it this point and say until they ask yeah You don't have to forget. Yeah, or if they don't want me to forgive him I don't have to forgive him and so people use that to foster and water The the terrible weed of bitterness that can grow up in your heart Jesus said forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors if they ask us to forgive him and say that then and And I think I think grace It sets the attitude You know, the teaching of grace is that the attitude must always be one of forgiveness and we and we At least I know that that's what God has done for me and it's not been easy as a pastor for you know I'd like to say I always forgive everybody right away and I don't I remember talking to you one time about something that happened to you And you said, you know, but I've almost I've just about got forgiven Yeah, you know, and it was so cool to hear you say that because the process. It's a process But wait, but it's one way out of being actively engaged in all the time so true And I tell you it's hard for me sometimes because I think I've told you that when they died. I took it personally. Got a Yeah They do this to me God say what are you crazy? Yeah, I know and and forgiveness is not just a one-time thing either As we're talking about it is it is a process and we are called to forgive and God When we do things The principal if we take the first step he'll take the second step by the time we get to the third step We'll know that he took the first step but forgiveness He's what God wants and Jesus was big on that and so you say but you don't understand what songs are good to me All right, yeah, I know it's hard. That's true Yeah, you know it occurs to me that that non-forgiveness has a negative Cumulative effect right so that so that but you see people who older in life who have not had a pattern of forgiveness And they are bitter crusty old people and nobody wants to be around them And it's because they haven't cultivated the habit the whole we have it in a sense in a practice of forgiving and getting Jesus to get in there all the time and It works you all works. Yeah, oh it really does and and And the way you do that and we're about our time so when we're one more time on this But the way you do that is to recognize the forgiveness that was given to you You know, don't go look at the person who stabbed you in the back Go repeatedly to the cross or remember you hung in there

Well, that's the only way I deal with it and it's a process. It takes me It takes me a year sometimes Well, I got one guy that I'm still like the names. No, I'm not but I yeah would but I won't guys We're out of time. He appreciate you're coming in. We do it for me next week. We're good man guys Before we go whenever you're right or call be sure and give us the call letters of the station in key life as a production of